Inside Elance: Thirteen Writers Explain Why Elance Works for Them
| by Shelley Wake | April 16, 2005
Browsing through the writing projects at Elance, one thing stands out. Its the Recent Earnings figures listed with each bidders name. These arent fake figures these figures show what real writers have been able to earn and they range from $1000 to $60,000.
If some writers are making $60,000 a year, then Elance looks like a great opportunity for writers. Yet, a lot of the talk is against Elance. People say that its unfair that they charge writers fees, that you wont get paid what youre worth, and that the bidding process pushes the value of services down. Is there truth in that?
To find out and to get an inside look at Elance, I found people earning good money on Elance and asked them a few questions. Heres what they had to say.
Is there money to be made?
Ryan, Copywriter Its a full-time income.
Ive made $40,000 this year through Elance. And Ive made about the same again from Elance clients referring me to others. If youve got ability, there is definitely money to be made.
Sally, Childrens Writer Im making $1000 a month.
I average about $1000 a month through Elance. There is more to be made, but I limit myself to about one project a week so I can concentrate on my novels.
Gerard, Freelance Writer Im working my way up.
At the moment, Im making about $500 a week. I started out making about that a month. But the more I learn which projects are worth taking and how to win them, the better Im getting. My plan is to work my way up to $2000 a week.
Are the fees worth it?
Raymond, Copywriter Theres a cost to doing business.
If youre working for yourself, then youre a business. And starting any business is going to have some costs. As a writer, I cant make a cent unless I can find clients. For $30 a month, Elance puts them all in front of me. Thats a worthwhile investment in my business.
Angela, Proofreader The cost of finding work.
When I think of the time it would take me to search for good clients, I think Elance is a bargain. To get the volume of work Im getting, Im sure it would cost me far more than $30 a month. Elance does that job for me and consistently delivers quality clients.
Damien, Copywriter Its a no-brainer.
Yes, I pay a few fees. But I make around $50,000 a year. And the process of completing jobs and getting paid for the work is professional and simple. Of course, the fees are worth it.
Are the fees unfair?
Steve, Freelance Writer Higher fees, higher pay
I was there in the beginning when Elance was a free service where you didnt have to pay to bid. I watched as all kinds of people started bidding and pushed the quality way down. I watched the bids slide to ridiculously low levels. I wasnt happy when they decided to charge a subscription fee. But I stuck around and rode it out. Since then, the quality of bidders has increased so much that you can bid for a project and get paid what its worth. Everyone there is professional and paying to be there, so there are no unprofessionals bidding $5 and ruining it for everyone. I may be paying $30 a month to bid, but the amount I get for a project has increased by at least that much. The higher pay more than makes up for the fee.
Racquel, Editor Quality Clients.
I understand that what Elance did was a business decision. They knew that the money was in attracting quality clients. But they couldnt do that unless they first fixed the quality of the writers. The fee sorted out the serious professionals from the rest. Once they had quality writers, they worked on attracting quality clients. Ive completed a few projects through free bidding sites and seen the difference. So I think the fee is actually a good thing.
Sean, Freelance Writer A team of people working for me.
I dont think of it as a fee to get work. I think of it as paying a whole team of people to bring me work. Thats basically what the money provides me with. And I figure thats a very small price to pay.
Is it a good place to find work?
Evan, Freelance Writer They attract the right kind of clients.
There are a lot of free sites around. The problem is that as well as making it easy for freelancers to bid, they also make it easy for project owners. They focus on attracting clients with promises of cheap services. You can bid for free, but the clients they attract are looking for a service at a rock bottom price. Ive tried them all and Elance and Guru are the only two where Ive found good clients and been able to get a reasonable amount of money for my work.
Jessie, Writer/Translator They find the clients for you.
The toughest part of my job is trying to find people who need my services and then convince them to pay me. If you seek them out, it starts off bad because it puts them in the driving seat. With Elance, I just get to sit there and wait for people to come to me.
John, Copywriter They reduce the competition.
The best thing for me is that the competition for each job gets reduced to a reasonable level. Do you know how hard it is to win a job thats advertised on the Internet when 2000 people apply for it? On Elance, Im often competing with just 10 other people. And with great feedback and a great proposal, I average winning about 1 in 3 projects.
Maree, Ghostwriter A great place to find major projects.
I only like working on major projects. These projects are worth up to $10,000. Elance is the only place where Ive been able to find clients willing to pay this kind of money. At all the other sites, Ive only been able to find people who want an entire book ghostwritten for $100. Plus, Elances payment process makes it safe to complete projects worth this much money.
Do you have any advice for people considering working via Elance?
Sean, Freelance Writer Get great feedback.
Every client that you work with will give you feedback. Your next clients will see that feedback and its a big deciding factor for them. Dont risk your reputation by taking jobs you might not be able to complete. Even if you have to wait a while for the right project to come along, wait and take projects that you know you can do. Then make sure you do everything right and get great feedback. Once youve done it once, your feedback will have you winning the next projects a lot faster.
Angela, Proofreader Let the work build.
Take it slow and dont panic. Take projects that you know you can do, and dont rush into applying for them all just because you want work. Wait for the right one to come along. Project bidding is often slow to start. But one project leads to two, two leads to four, four leads to eight and so on. Just accept the slow start and let the work build, learning as much as you can on the way.
Ryan, Copywriter Dont drop your prices.
If youre not winning projects, dont panic and start dropping your prices. Keep your prices reasonable, but dont think that a lower price will make the difference. A lot of clients on Elance are looking for quality. If your price is considerably lower than everyone elses, you stand out as cheap. And that doesnt suggest quality.
Jessie, Writer/Translator See what the winners are doing.
For every project you dont win, read through the bids and see who did win it. If the bid details are public, you can read exactly what their proposal said and what they charged. Then use this information to make your next bid stronger.
Ryan, Copywriter Winning projects is a skill and it will take time to learn it.
Dont assume that its easy. Ive seen a lot of people sign up for one month, not win a project, quit Elance, and then tell everyone that its a scam. The truth is that winning projects and completing them is a skill as important as the ability to write. You have to take the time to learn the skill.
The Conclusion
For the people making good money on Elance, it is a good opportunity and the fees are worth what they get in return. This suggests that Elance is at least worth a look.
The next bid of good news is that you can take a look for free. Just sign up for a free account at Elance, which they call a Courtesy Listing. Your profile will be able to be viewed by potential clients and you can browse through the projects available. Then if you find a few projects that you think you can win, you can upgrade to a paid account. For $5 a month, you can bid for 3 projects. For $12 a month, you can bid for 80 projects. Or for $30 a month, you can bid for 120 projects.
If you think its worth a look, visit Elance to find out more.
If some writers are making $60,000 a year, then Elance looks like a great opportunity for writers. Yet, a lot of the talk is against Elance. People say that its unfair that they charge writers fees, that you wont get paid what youre worth, and that the bidding process pushes the value of services down. Is there truth in that?
To find out and to get an inside look at Elance, I found people earning good money on Elance and asked them a few questions. Heres what they had to say.
Is there money to be made?
Ryan, Copywriter Its a full-time income.
Ive made $40,000 this year through Elance. And Ive made about the same again from Elance clients referring me to others. If youve got ability, there is definitely money to be made.
Sally, Childrens Writer Im making $1000 a month.
I average about $1000 a month through Elance. There is more to be made, but I limit myself to about one project a week so I can concentrate on my novels.
Gerard, Freelance Writer Im working my way up.
At the moment, Im making about $500 a week. I started out making about that a month. But the more I learn which projects are worth taking and how to win them, the better Im getting. My plan is to work my way up to $2000 a week.
Are the fees worth it?
Raymond, Copywriter Theres a cost to doing business.
If youre working for yourself, then youre a business. And starting any business is going to have some costs. As a writer, I cant make a cent unless I can find clients. For $30 a month, Elance puts them all in front of me. Thats a worthwhile investment in my business.
Angela, Proofreader The cost of finding work.
When I think of the time it would take me to search for good clients, I think Elance is a bargain. To get the volume of work Im getting, Im sure it would cost me far more than $30 a month. Elance does that job for me and consistently delivers quality clients.
Damien, Copywriter Its a no-brainer.
Yes, I pay a few fees. But I make around $50,000 a year. And the process of completing jobs and getting paid for the work is professional and simple. Of course, the fees are worth it.
Are the fees unfair?
Steve, Freelance Writer Higher fees, higher pay
I was there in the beginning when Elance was a free service where you didnt have to pay to bid. I watched as all kinds of people started bidding and pushed the quality way down. I watched the bids slide to ridiculously low levels. I wasnt happy when they decided to charge a subscription fee. But I stuck around and rode it out. Since then, the quality of bidders has increased so much that you can bid for a project and get paid what its worth. Everyone there is professional and paying to be there, so there are no unprofessionals bidding $5 and ruining it for everyone. I may be paying $30 a month to bid, but the amount I get for a project has increased by at least that much. The higher pay more than makes up for the fee.
Racquel, Editor Quality Clients.
I understand that what Elance did was a business decision. They knew that the money was in attracting quality clients. But they couldnt do that unless they first fixed the quality of the writers. The fee sorted out the serious professionals from the rest. Once they had quality writers, they worked on attracting quality clients. Ive completed a few projects through free bidding sites and seen the difference. So I think the fee is actually a good thing.
Sean, Freelance Writer A team of people working for me.
I dont think of it as a fee to get work. I think of it as paying a whole team of people to bring me work. Thats basically what the money provides me with. And I figure thats a very small price to pay.
Is it a good place to find work?
Evan, Freelance Writer They attract the right kind of clients.
There are a lot of free sites around. The problem is that as well as making it easy for freelancers to bid, they also make it easy for project owners. They focus on attracting clients with promises of cheap services. You can bid for free, but the clients they attract are looking for a service at a rock bottom price. Ive tried them all and Elance and Guru are the only two where Ive found good clients and been able to get a reasonable amount of money for my work.
Jessie, Writer/Translator They find the clients for you.
The toughest part of my job is trying to find people who need my services and then convince them to pay me. If you seek them out, it starts off bad because it puts them in the driving seat. With Elance, I just get to sit there and wait for people to come to me.
John, Copywriter They reduce the competition.
The best thing for me is that the competition for each job gets reduced to a reasonable level. Do you know how hard it is to win a job thats advertised on the Internet when 2000 people apply for it? On Elance, Im often competing with just 10 other people. And with great feedback and a great proposal, I average winning about 1 in 3 projects.
Maree, Ghostwriter A great place to find major projects.
I only like working on major projects. These projects are worth up to $10,000. Elance is the only place where Ive been able to find clients willing to pay this kind of money. At all the other sites, Ive only been able to find people who want an entire book ghostwritten for $100. Plus, Elances payment process makes it safe to complete projects worth this much money.
Do you have any advice for people considering working via Elance?
Sean, Freelance Writer Get great feedback.
Every client that you work with will give you feedback. Your next clients will see that feedback and its a big deciding factor for them. Dont risk your reputation by taking jobs you might not be able to complete. Even if you have to wait a while for the right project to come along, wait and take projects that you know you can do. Then make sure you do everything right and get great feedback. Once youve done it once, your feedback will have you winning the next projects a lot faster.
Angela, Proofreader Let the work build.
Take it slow and dont panic. Take projects that you know you can do, and dont rush into applying for them all just because you want work. Wait for the right one to come along. Project bidding is often slow to start. But one project leads to two, two leads to four, four leads to eight and so on. Just accept the slow start and let the work build, learning as much as you can on the way.
Ryan, Copywriter Dont drop your prices.
If youre not winning projects, dont panic and start dropping your prices. Keep your prices reasonable, but dont think that a lower price will make the difference. A lot of clients on Elance are looking for quality. If your price is considerably lower than everyone elses, you stand out as cheap. And that doesnt suggest quality.
Jessie, Writer/Translator See what the winners are doing.
For every project you dont win, read through the bids and see who did win it. If the bid details are public, you can read exactly what their proposal said and what they charged. Then use this information to make your next bid stronger.
Ryan, Copywriter Winning projects is a skill and it will take time to learn it.
Dont assume that its easy. Ive seen a lot of people sign up for one month, not win a project, quit Elance, and then tell everyone that its a scam. The truth is that winning projects and completing them is a skill as important as the ability to write. You have to take the time to learn the skill.
The Conclusion
For the people making good money on Elance, it is a good opportunity and the fees are worth what they get in return. This suggests that Elance is at least worth a look.
The next bid of good news is that you can take a look for free. Just sign up for a free account at Elance, which they call a Courtesy Listing. Your profile will be able to be viewed by potential clients and you can browse through the projects available. Then if you find a few projects that you think you can win, you can upgrade to a paid account. For $5 a month, you can bid for 3 projects. For $12 a month, you can bid for 80 projects. Or for $30 a month, you can bid for 120 projects.
If you think its worth a look, visit Elance to find out more.
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